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Bush: It's unacceptable to think....

October 6th 2006 11:37
It's unacceptable to think that there's any kind of comparison between the behavior of the United States of America and the action of Islamic extremists who kill innocent women and children to achieve an objective. - George W Bush, Press Conference at the Rose Garden 15/09/06

Apparently, George Bush now believes he has the authority to dictate what is, or is not, acceptable to think about. It is a sad day for freedom when our leaders tell us what thoughts we are allowed to consider within the confines of our own mind.

In a land that allegedly promotes 'Freedom of Speech' as one of the most basic rights, surely it us completely unconstitutional just to limit the topics that people can discuss, but for authority to decide what it is "unacceptable to think" about is another huge step towards making its citizens the robotic and almost zombie-like inhabitants of Orwells '1984' or Huxley's 'Brave New World'. To hear this from the leader of a country that claims to be the bastion of freedom and democracy makes me shudder. I was under the impression that in a democracy the people are the ones with the power to decide what is acceptable from its leaders, not the other way round. Apparently, I was wrong.


It is worth noting that at no point in the speech does Emperor Bush states that there is not a comparison between the United States and the terrorists that is allegedly saving the world from, only that it is unacceptable to think about such a comparison. In my opinion, there is very little difference in the techniques used by the so-called extremists and the Bush administration to achieve their objectives. If the United States Army is not responsible for the killing of innocent people, what happened at Abu Ghraib? What about Guantanamo Bay? To go further back in history, didn't the United States drop two nuclear bombs on Japan at the end of World War II? Surely all of these scenarios involved the killing of innocent people. But we're not supposed to think about that.


Thomas Jefferson once said, "Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government.”

As Keith Olbermann asked in his brilliant report of this press conference "Would you call it "unacceptable" for Jefferson to think such things, or to write them?"

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Comment by Anonymous

October 6th 2006 12:25
you dumb fuck, you made a spelling mistake in the HEADLINE!

Comment by Gareth

October 6th 2006 12:27
Thanks for pointing that out!

Comment by drpepper

October 6th 2006 15:12
Great article.
I think that the "its unacceptable to think.." line is seriously taken out of context. While i do not like the current administration, the president was simply stating his opinion on the matter.

While i do agree that a person in his position should be more careful when choosing his words, i think this was blown way out of proportion.

Comment by Anonymous

October 6th 2006 15:57
Excellent comment Gareth and all very true,
bush must be the worst ruler known ever!
The instability, destruction and future destroying plans that has happened since he took office is staggering.
He does seem to think he has total freedom to do as he wishes, like a true dictator.
What bothers me is we (the people are being played and persuaded not to believe the truth, that is the dominance and control of wealth and power be it oil land, emotion or life itself. We always seem to be on the tail of truth but never close enough to stop it, the transition of process from the start of the control phase to the end is bloody and lengthy, each time it brings us closer to nuclear atmospheres becoming reality. We need to be able to minimize or stop this transition before it gets too late.
Bush and the other megalomanic elites are going to continue in their efforts unless we start talking more about these subjects and you Gareth are doing a top job in making people talk, its our only true offense against it, us and the whistle blowers are nothing if we're made out to be a crazy delusional minority due to the controlled media propaganda so forcefuly dispensed.


Comment by Gareth

October 6th 2006 16:06
Hi Drpepper,

Thanks for the comment. While I accept that this quote has been taken out of context, I still believe that to say that it is unacceptable to think in any context is not only ridiculous but shows a tendency towards totalitarian attitudes. Maybe it is just a matter of choosing words more carefully, but considering the fact that all Bush's speeches are prepared by people well schooled in NLP and other methods of using words to sell a particular point & the fact that Bush's words carry an enormous amount of influence and subsequently go towards the setting of international policies, I dont think this is an acceptable excuse.

Comment by Anonymous

October 6th 2006 17:29
It is frightening how the terror of fiction can become the truth of reality.

Comment by Anonymous

October 6th 2006 18:27
Gareth, I'd agree with Drpepper here.

Phrases like "it is unacceptable to think ..." ; "you can't say ..."; "you can't believe" are often used to convey strong disagreement without necessarily also implying a desire to take away the right to think or express.

For example,
"You can't say 2 2 = 5! It's 4!"
"You can't believe that the sun revolves around the earth. Motion is relative to a frame of reference."

Unjust limits to freedom of expression do occur in the US but these comments by Bush are not an example.

If there is a significant moral difference between the Bush Administration and "Islamic Extremists" it is not a difference of opinion that it is right to "kill inocent women and children to achieve an objective." Both groups believe it is right. Bush knew innocent women and children would be killed by US munitions before he started the war in Iraq.

Comment by Gareth

October 6th 2006 18:45
I agree to a certain degree, but my point is that Bush's words are carefully chosen (for him) by people who are perfectly aware of the significance of their words. While I accept that he is not the sharpest tool in the box when it comes to answering difficult questions, I have no doubt that both him and his speech writers expected that question to be asked would assume that his response would have been planned accordingly.
Therefore, in my opinion, the quote was meant to be taken, at least subconciously in the way that Olbermann interpreted it. The full speech can be found at the link on the bottom of the post.

Comment by Anonymous

October 6th 2006 19:39
It's bad enough that I took the time to read this drivel, but to have taken the time to write an article on that quotet...it's quite pathetic, really.

Everything about this article is stupid. As if the moron posting it can't figure out what's meant is: It's unreasonable to say that the actions of the US and those of radical Islam are analagous.

Even if the author can't make such a feeble leap in logic, let's go to the words themselves...What's wrong with the phrase, "It's unacceptable to think..."? The speaker simply meant, "It's unacceptable to me..." So what? Nowhere in the text could a reasonable person infer that Bush was somehow implying that thinking such "unacceptable" thoughts was illegal or prohibited.

Fools philosophy...what a joke.

Comment by Gareth

October 6th 2006 19:50
Thats fine, you're entitled to your opinion. I, unlike Bush, believe that it is acceptable for you to think whatever you choose.

Thanks for the comment.

Comment by Chantal

October 7th 2006 11:37
What I want to know is if you have such strong opinions, why are you afraid to put your name behind them? Being so aggressive behind a mask of anonimity doesnt actually give your argument any strength, it makes you look like the coward you are.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and Gareth has even taken yours into account, although you seem to be being disagreeable just for the sake of it.

I think you might be on to something, Gareth. A lot of work does go into what Bush says, it's like a well made film in that nothing is done by accident.

As if it wasnt clear by "Anonymous"s comments, some people have very small minds and are very easily influenced. I think it's a very real possibility those words were meant to infiltrate at least their minds. Even if it's not the case, it's a very interesting perspective!

Comment by Gareth

October 7th 2006 12:07
Thanks for the comment Chantal,

I agree that people should be more open minded. Maybe it was just a bad choice of words and maybe it was meant exactly as I interpreted it, I think its important to take all the available information and opinions and make up our own minds.

Comment by Chantal

October 7th 2006 12:42
Absolutely! Which is why I respect that all your responses and opinions are presented in that way. You're inviting an open discussion and happy to accept all views which is really what forums like this are for!

Comment by JoJMeister

October 7th 2006 22:04
Indeed, I tend to agree with Chantal. A great deal of work goes into every word Bush says, by the likes of Carl Rove and other whitehouse spin doctors. It is troubling to say the least that they would use such strong words. Even if those exact words are taken slightly out of context, which I personally do not believe, there is still at the very least an attempt here to convince people that to liken the US administration to the "terrorist extremists" and to even suggest that America does in fact kill innocent women and children to acheive its goals is somehow ludicrous. And in Donald Rumsfeld's opinion, people who do question the administration and draw any comparison between the US and the so-called terrorists are "Intellectually or morally challenged". I'm sorry but one would have to be intellectually challenged NOT to draw any comparison between the US administation and the "terrorists". And, suffice to say, it is even documented in official US government documents that the US has carried out numerous false flag operations and actively planned to kill innocent women and children to further their interests in the past. And one only has to glance in passing at the "Project for the New American Century" dossier to know that they indeed still are.

Comment by Gareth

October 7th 2006 22:17
Thanks for the comment Joj,

Once again I agree with you completely.

Comment by Damo

October 8th 2006 03:45
I read the headline and wondered if Gareth was quoting out of context. However I the words if quoted correctly indicate intellectual miopia of Bush's team of speach writters. The correct way to have made his statement would have been to say that it is 'unacceptable to me...' as many skill speakers do in legitimate debate. Leaving out the 'to me' leaves every one with a sense that his words are true by the fact of them being stated. Sloppy, sloppy, speach writing and even sloppier clear thinking. A year 12 student could cut this up in an essay for breakfast.

Also on a side not you should delete the first comment from Anon as it now redundant and offensive.

Comment by Gareth

October 9th 2006 12:15
Hi Damo,

Thanks for commenting and taking the time to read this. Maybe you're right and I should pick a more capable opponent to criticize, after all, my 8 yr old son could prob beat Bush in a debate!

The only reason I havent deleted the above comment is that I regularly rant about how I disagree with censorship and thought it would be hypocritical of me to delete a comment purely because it is offensive towards me & points out my mistakes.

Comment by amy louise

October 17th 2006 18:21
look at mr anonumous 'hard man'...how the hell do you know bush meant 'it's unacceptable to me!' you twit!Ive done a youth leaders course and the first lesson tells you that your not suppose to tell kids 'don't do drugs' or your don't do that...or any words that will tell them how to think, and bush being the president should know shit like that, maybe thats why he said, to influence the way we think...havn't you ever heared of constructive critism you arse? good work gareth, i back everything your saying chick!it's a shame people can't disagree with you constructivley rather than call your work pathetic!he says this yet hes still writing to you!what a plonker!

Comment by Gareth

October 17th 2006 18:42
Hi Amy,

Thanks for the comment and the support, you're exactly right. Bush does know what he's saying and that why he said it.

To be honest I quite like it when people argue with me, it makes me think about my opinions and comment on any details I may have left out. Apart from that, the more comments i get the higher the rating, so the more people write to tell me that they disagree, the more popular my blogs become!


Comment by lilgrasshoppah

October 18th 2006 04:05
Olbermann is right on.

And why should we cut George Bush any slack? Because of his forthrightness and integrity? Because of how he treats all of his opponents fairly, and with dignity? What has George Bush done to deserve "slack"? All he does with slack is find new and entertaining ways to hang himself. He gets his people into wars they are unwilling, and unprepared, to fight. he offends friends and enemies alike with equal aplomb.

He is incompetent, childish, needlessly combative, and dictatorial.... in short, a simpleton.

The reason Olbermann keyed on that phrase is only because George Bush's behavior demands that a journalist has to. It's Olbermann's job to question the president. I find it interesting that George Bush says "it's unacceptable to think"... and, when Olbermann questions that, a chorus of simple-minded sychophants shriek, "Pipe down! Pipe down! You don'rtt understand! The president didn't mean it in the way you're implying!" Need I remind you that George Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld have all publicly questioned the patriotism of citizens who question the administration. How else can anybody interpret the president when he says, "it's unacceptable to think...."?

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